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			02:50 pm April 22nd, 2004

renniekins


	Trouble With Singing
	An entry in my friends list triggered a random memory from college, that I thought I'd share because it amused me. I sang in an acapella choir in college, and we had this one song called "Deep Peace". Almost every line of the song contained the phrase "deep peace", and it gave me all sorts of challenges. I didn't know what to do those those two P's right next to each other like that. Our director was constantly telling me to pronounce both P's, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to. I would sing "Deee-Peace...", and then when berated I would try really hard, closing my mouth very firmly when I got to the double-P's, and it would come out "Deeeeeeeee-Puh-eace". That was the closest I ever got, and I was really just lingering on one P, not pronouncing both of them. It wasn't until after I'd graduated that I told this story to fachless, and she explained to me I needed to sing "Deeee-puh-peace", and it would sound correct. I tried it, and it worked! Finally it made sense to me, and I could pull it off. Unfortunately my director never got to hear my new skill, and I haven't been asked to sing the song since. Oh well....

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	From: renniekins	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:15 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I stared dumbly at her friends list for a good 60 seconds before I realized you must mean in real life, right?

No, I didn't know that. How cool!

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	From: fachless	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Ya don't have to wait 'til I'm in town...HI! BTW, who's Mont?

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	From: renniekins	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:42 pm (UTC)		(Link)

(No no, not dumb....just a sign of my serious LJ addiction I think!)

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	From: operatic	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:29 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Isn't linking to a protected post a LJ foul? ;)

That story reminds me of a choir director I once heard (but did not sing under) who encouraged his choir to sing a hard "C" instead of the "G" of "Gloria" (so it sounded like "Cloria") in, I think, the Vivaldi Gloria. It was kind of a neat trick (and worked to sharpen the entrance). ;)

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	From: renniekins	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:34 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Ack, sorry, my bad. I didn't notice it was protected.

That's cool! I can imagine how that would make the entrance more dramatic, without being noticable.

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	From: dreamattack329	Date: April 22nd, 2004 01:51 pm (UTC)		(Link)

My choir sang Vivaldi's "Gloria" in high school. The one tip I remember from our choir director was that we should pronounce "inexcelces deo" as "in-egg-shell-seas day-o." Whenever I hear Gloria sung, I know exactly why she told us that. Without the overpronunciation, it all just runs together.

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			Thread started by fachless

	From: fachless	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Snort!

What a crack. As I was analyzing what you should do, I came to the same conclusion. Points for consistancy.

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	From: renniekins	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:54 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: Snort!

This is a good sign: it means you didn't mis-teach me!

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			Thread started by jebra

	From: jebra	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:45 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Would you sing the song some time? You've pique my curiosity.

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	From: renniekins	Date: April 22nd, 2004 12:53 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Sure, next time we get together! In fact, I even have the whole group singing it on tape. (although in that version, I won't be pronouncing sufficient P's.)

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From: nicegeek	Date: April 22nd, 2004 02:45 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Time for a voice post! ;-)

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			Comment by Stan Harding

	From: stanharding	Date: April 22nd, 2004 01:43 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I love good singing enunciation tricks. From the opening of a production of The Pirates of Penzance, instead of "here's good luck to Frederic's ventures", we sang "here's good ludduck to Frederic's vedentures". The extra D's made the dotted-eight-sixteenth rhythm pop out much more cleanly, and was subtle enough the audience couldn't hear it.

Also in an English-translated Die Fledermaus, we had to sing very quickly, "A toast to champagne", which is a bitch and a half. The director had half of us sing "A toastoo Ampagne", and the other half sing "A toe to CHAMpagne", using a hard CH. That ensured that the audience heard both tough consonants and the blend made it sound like the real thing.

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			Thread started by Laura

	From: guingel	Date: April 22nd, 2004 03:40 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the "dee-puh-peace" thing is something your choir director shoulda told you when he was yelling at you for not pronouncing both p's? I could just be biased--I'm not actually in the choir, and never have been, but the choir director's great to me, so. . . Of course, I know even less about choir in college. (plus, I feel fairly incoherent cos I just woke up from a nap, and my brain is trying to pull me back under. . .)

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	From: renniekins	Date: April 23rd, 2004 07:55 am (UTC)		(Link)

He was just another student, not a professional. And he TRIED to explain it to me. He just didn't find a way to put it that made it "click" in my head, y'know?

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	From: guingel	Date: April 23rd, 2004 10:36 am (UTC)		(Link)

ah, ok. I understand. I was being fairly uncharitable, but I don't like it when people just say what to do and not how, you know?

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			Thread started by Chuck

	From: thatguychuck	Date: April 22nd, 2004 09:33 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Finally it made sense to me, and I could pull it off. Unfortunately my director never got to hear my new skill, and I haven't been asked to sing the song since. Oh well....

And my immediate thought upon reading that sentence was, "Now where's the phone post?"

(grin)

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	From: renniekins	Date: April 23rd, 2004 07:43 am (UTC)		(Link)

haha! That's two people to request one... maybe I'll give it a try tonight. (: It's a pretty song, but I don't know if just one person over a telephone can properly convey that....

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