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Turkey Vultures
hairNotes to LJ land: I made it home, safe and sound! Sorry for the profusion of babbling phone posts; I hope they provided the world with some amusement. They did me, and that's a good thing.

Here's a quick HNT post for y'all! I took it this morning in my hotel room, but couldn't convince my Treo to email it for some reason. Current Treo status: phone seems to work fine, but it decides to power down whenever I suggest that it email a HNT picture to LJ. Perhaps it's just become a prude, and feels I should be wearing more than a bra in my photos? I don't know. Either that or it's heard that I'm thinking of replacing it, so it's attempting to improve its behavior.

Incidentally, davehogg says that turkey vultures are indeed black with red necks. So I don't know if that's what I saw, but it might have been. Do a lot of turkey vultures get smooshed by cars in Ohio?

Speaking of accidents, I was talking to a coworker this evening about the size of his truck. I told him how much I dislike big trucks. He said, "Yeah but if I get in an accident, I want to be the one who wins."

"I just think it's best if there aren't any losers," I told him.

"Oh, yeah," he said, sounding a bit embarrassed. Good. What an awful attitude to have!

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renniekins From: renniekins Date: November 18th, 2005 05:43 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, it wasn't flying like that.

Thanks so much for your call...that was really great of you! (:
hannunvaakuna From: hannunvaakuna Date: November 18th, 2005 05:28 am (UTC) (Link)
it's an awful attitude to want to do everything in your power to possibly survive a car accident? i don't get it...
renniekins From: renniekins Date: November 18th, 2005 05:48 am (UTC) (Link)
No no, definitely not. But he said "win", not "survive". Maybe it was just the WAY he said it, that rubbed me so wrong. But I got the clear feeling that his goal was to make sure that he could smoosh any vehicle he happened to hit -- that's why I pointed out that I thought it best if there were no losers.

He drives one of those huuuge trucks, like a Ford 250 or something.
mrdisco99 From: mrdisco99 Date: November 18th, 2005 06:09 am (UTC) (Link)
What's funny is you're more likely to get hurt in some of those big vehicles in a collision because, as "trucks," they have less stringent safety requirements. Take a look at the crash test ratings and photos on trucks and SUVs vs. compact and mid-sized cars. You'd be surprised.

renniekins From: renniekins Date: November 18th, 2005 07:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's really good to know, not to mention a bit of a relief. (:

Thanks for the transcription! Well done.
- the girl who doesn't know how to end phone posts gracefully
mrdisco99 From: mrdisco99 Date: November 18th, 2005 11:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heehee... it was fun. For some reason I always imagined your voice at around that pitch but with a different timbre... more like Molly Ringwald or something.
johnridley From: johnridley Date: November 18th, 2005 07:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's undoubtedly true, but you can't argue these things rationally.
It's actually very safe to ride bicycles in traffic if you're doing it right, and statistics back that up, but you couldn't pay most people enough money to even try it.
bwittig From: bwittig Date: November 18th, 2005 05:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just think it's best if there aren't any losers," I told him.

I like the way you put that. Got to remember that line for the next time I hear that kind of brag about someone's truck.

By the way, the crash tests have been showing that the "big is safer, small car drivers will lose" idea is no longer true. It was true back in the 80's and maybe 90's, but since then the relative safety of small vehicles has improved to that of the large vehicles.

Plus, a lower vehicle has a lower center of gravity and has less tendency to roll over.
asyatka From: asyatka Date: November 18th, 2005 06:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Plus, a lower vehicle has a lower center of gravity and has less tendency to roll over.

I got this impression too. I had to drive a huge Chevy Blazer recently (my car was in service), and each time I made a turn, I was afraid it was going to tip over. My car seems to be more stable then a truck. (Maybe it is the matter of habit, though).
atdt1991 From: atdt1991 Date: November 18th, 2005 07:16 am (UTC) (Link)
I, for one, totally disagree with your Treo. *grins*
devnul From: devnul Date: November 18th, 2005 12:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yup, I know a lot of people with the "I win" joke. I just remind them how accidents are rare but filling up at the pump happens all the time, and they don't win there. At all.

The Treo is clearly confused. It must just be overwhelmed. ;)

And I'm glad you made it home safely!
cpip From: cpip Date: November 18th, 2005 01:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Turkey vultures do indeed get hit by cars with a certain level of frequency, at least in Kentucky, just south of Ohio. They stop on the roadside to feed on carrion, and then sometimes get hit.
johnridley From: johnridley Date: November 18th, 2005 07:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think it's an interesting commentary on our society that it's become socially acceptable to injure/kill innocent people in order to save yourself from injury.

Not only are big trucks more likely to hurt/kill others in an accident, they're far more likely to cause accidents in the first place. High center of gravity, reduced visibility, inferior handling, and other factors make them a menace on the road and in the driveway/parking lot.

The stories recently about kids getting killed in backover accidents were sickening to me, but interesting in one regard: nobody started saying "Maybe you shouldn't be driving a huge truck that you can't properly manage" - they said "radar/sonar proximity backup alarms should be mandatory."

See, it's someone else's fault. Not their fault for buying a huge car they didn't need and couldn't properly control, not their fault for not looking what they were doing, it was someone else's fault for not forcing them to buy a piece of technology to keep them from killing other people. How long will it be before there's a lawsuit against car mfgs for not including all available safety features in all cars (if there hasn't already been one)?

I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a separate driving test for different sized vehicles. Anything longer than a mid-sized car, you need to take a separate test; maybe, parallel parking and cone avoidance while driving a Ram 3500 duelly. Another rating for big stuff like RVs. It'd be nice to see a rating for trailering as well, but that's unlikely.
renniekins From: renniekins Date: November 21st, 2005 12:55 am (UTC) (Link)
I think having extra driving tests is not a bad idea at all. They are harder to drive properly, after all! People should prove they know how, so they're not a hazard....

My fantasy has been that we should have a "small car lane", just like there is a "car pool lane" in some places. Basically the leftmost lane on any major road should be reserved for cars only, to encourage larger vehicles to converve gas and drive more cautiously.
elizilla From: elizilla Date: November 18th, 2005 11:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
There's something screwed up in this post, that is causing your comments to float to the top of my friend's page. Can you edit your post? Thanks!
renniekins From: renniekins Date: November 18th, 2005 11:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sure! I took out the table stuff. Hopefully that helped?
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