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New Job?
I am applying for a manager position at work. I'm posting it here so I can remember if/when I applied....

It's weird, because I'm not certain I want the job. It'd be an exciting opportunity, but I'm a little nervous leaving my technical roots - although I'd still be doing development part of the time. To be honest, I applied for this same position in the fall. I was not chosen, and 2 other people were. I was bummed and annoyed that I wasn't selected, especially when one of those 2 people left the company a month ago.

I felt somewhat like I'd put myself out there. I thought they needed me, so I offered to help out and be a manager (even though I wasn't sure I wanted to be), and they rejected me. Then they went with somebody not as good, who didn't even stick around. It's like when the boy who dumped you ends up with a loser. I felt a little bit pleased and vindictive - but at the same I really do want my company to succeed. I like this company, and when it succeeds, I succeed.

So long story short, they put out requests for people to apply for management positions again. I thought it over, and I did not apply. I figured that I'd made them an offer once, and they'd rejected it. That was fine, but if they wanted me they'd need to tell me.

They D, the guy asking for applications, brought me into his office. He wondered why I hadn't applied. He was hoping that I had simple not realized that the deadline had already passed.

I explained that I said above, while trying to be polite about it. I explained that I figured they would ask me if they wanted me. D looked confused, and went hmmm. I said, "Is this sort of you asking me to?"

"Well, yes, somewhat," he said. "But only if you're comfortable with it. You can send me a resume even though the deadline has passed. Only if you want to."

So I thought it over. I got what I wanted: he asked me to apply. So I figured what the heck, and I sent in my resume again. There are three stages to the interview process. I've made it through Stage One, the second is tomorrow, and the last is next week. We shall see what happens next!!


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pi3832 From: pi3832 Date: March 6th, 2014 04:28 am (UTC) (Link)
I've done something similar in the past: gone from being a tech to being the manager of techs, though this was in chemistry.

Anyway, in retrospect, I can’t help but say that it’s a stupid way to get managers. To just promote people who have demonstrated valuable yet non-management skills. It's like saying, “You are an excellent footman, Mr. Cooper. So, we're putting you in charge of the kitchen." As an added layer of WTF, companies also typically give you no training what-so-ever in management. You're expected to just figure it out as you go. By that logic, why do they bother with hiring degree'd techs in the first place?</p>

When my mother was working in the business school at IIT, I pitched the idea of having courses like “Business Fundamentals for Engineers”. (You can insert any technical field in place of ‘Engineers’.) The logic being that 80% of technical people will end up in middle-management at some point, so why not give them a little education on management, accounting, finance, etcetcetc?

But no. Personally, I think the problem is arrogance among folks in technical fields. “Business” is what stupid people major in. If you're a smart techie, you should be able to easily just figure it out as you go along.

And thus all the really shitty managers in the tech fields.

(Sorry for the rant. Long day.)

But, seriously, why do you want the job you aren't trained for?

elizilla From: elizilla Date: March 6th, 2014 06:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Having managers who are not technical, is kind of a pain too. Sometimes they don't understand the work well enough to manage it well. I think you need both sets of skills, to really manage well. I think Rennie will be good at it.
ms_hecubus From: ms_hecubus Date: March 6th, 2014 03:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Good luck!
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